Surviving El Chapo: The Twins Who Brought Down A Drug Lord

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Identical twins Jay and Pete Flores, who were once North America’s biggest drug traffickers and El Chapo’s right hand men, turned themselves into the U.S. government with the hopes of starting a new, safer life for their family. But after years of cooperating to get the world's most powerful drug kingpin behind bars, and finally gaining their freedom with a chance to start again, everything for the Flores family began to unravel. In Season 2 of Surviving El Chapo, hosts Curtis "50 Cent" Jackson and Charlie Webster hear Jay and Pete reveal for the first time what really happened during their turbulent 14-year prison journey and what it was like to come face-to-face in court with El Chapo. Plus, find out the shocking backstory to the prison sentence that the Flores wives are currently facing.
 
Hosted and executive produced by award-winning artist and producer Curtis "50 Cent" Jackson and critically acclaimed broadcast journalist and producer Charlie Webster. Brought to you by Lionsgate Sound as a world exclusive with iHeartPodcasts.

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  • Flores Twin Jay
    Surviving El Chapo listeners
    Throughout our podcast, we have taken accountability for our actions and have shared the suffering we endured as a result of the life we lived. We have never made excuses we simply told our story as we experienced it at the time. The reason we chose to share our story was not to glorify our past but to serve as a deterrent. We wanted to give people an inside look at what a real drug trafficker’s life is like not the Hollywood version, but the reality. We shared our struggles, our regrets, and the suffering that our children and families went through in the hope that it would make others think twice before going down the same path. There are many people who share their experiences from the perspective of suffering due to addiction, and their voices are important. We are simply sharing it from a different side the perspective of those who were involved in the business but ultimately made the decision to walk away. Our goal is to reach those who are still caught up in that life and show them that change is possible. I understand that not everyone will agree with our perspective, but I want to make it clear that we do not disregard the pain caused by drugs, violence, or addiction. Today, I do everything I can to fight drug trafficking and help prevent others from making the same mistakes. That being said, we appreciate all of your comments and perspectives. Season 3 is on the way, and we will be doing live Q&As where we can have an open and honest discussion about these topics. Looking forward to engaging with you all. Thank you for listening. Jay
  • Nina Sabrina Ines
    Grandiose thinking + disgusting victim mentality
    It’s very hard to listen to the twins and their wives painting themselves to be heroes who are “sacrificing” and sad victims when they *CHOSE* to spend YEARS living in luxury off MILLIONS of drug money they KNOWINGLY earned from selling drugs to addicts whose families/children suffer so much from the addicts’ drug use. The boasting about how many kilos of drugs they moved as if that’s something to be proud of?!They only decided to “sacrifice” and leave the cartel when it suited THEIR own interests. Disappointed that the host never once challenges their warped and self-centered points of view and offers an unbiased perspective.
  • Gabysteve24
    Love it
    Great pod! One of my favorites
  • KPMC1423
    #1
    Best podcast. Listened to both seasons twice, that’s how good it is. Twins are great story tellers and with Charlie/50 and production it just makes u feel like u are in it. .. especially with the sound effects. Love it. I Wanna hear more. Maybe prison stories ?
  • WSULover
    Culture & relationships
    Great podcast. I still need updates!
  • Vellow led
    Unfun
    If I got a nickel every time I heard the word “Like”
  • Coffeelover13
    Gripping
    This is by far the best podcast I’ve ever heard… And I’ve heard a lot😆 The way the twins told their story was like you were a fly on the wall, watching it all happen😱 So good!
  • 518streets2
    50 sent me
    I seen 50 post this on his ig I loved it can we get a new season on someone else’s we waiting
  • Yh865
    Guy
    So good
  • Rguidos
    Worth a listen but repetitive
    You can almost fast-forward all the parts where they talk about how they did it for their family. The interesting parts are the insider knowledge they have of the drug trade and their personal story as twins, but it’s hard to understand the way they talk so I’d suggest following with the accompanying transcript. I wish there had been more interviews of law enforcement because they seem to care more about themselves, their family than the lives and families their “business” has ruined and it desperately calls for perspective. Having said that, what a feat to have gotten interviews with them. I wish it were better edited but it’s still worth a listen.
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  • 126Bella
    Eye opener!
    I have heard both seasons at least 3 times each. I have like 100+ questions!Do you guys realize how far up these twins were in the cartel?! I mean the secrets they know about how Mexico’s government really works! All the corruption that is involved and how unfair it is. I mean they know exactly how the drug arrives in the US. They know who can be bought, border patrol officers, police officers, etc. Let that sink in for a minute. It crazy to think that after all that they were able to survive such a corrupt system. While I believe that 14 years was such a long sentence, the degree they both went to help the US government should have allowed them for a more reduced sentence, but it was all a part of God’s plan. While separation while incarcerated was hard for them both God knew it was best for each of them to truly find themselves. He was preparing both of them for their paths. Hearing their children is heartbreaking. They have lost so much time without them but they are now better father’s because of it.
  • Daniel-Tanya
    Fire
    I don’t think anything I listen to is gonna top this. Crazy good story.
  • JennBunny7
    So good!
    Just finished season 1. It was so good. Can’t wait to listen to the second season!
  • 3girlranchmama
    Condense
    Good story, but definitely needs to be condensed more.
  • shelnal
    My favorite podcast
    Surviving, El Chapo remains my favorite podcast. I finished it months months ago but forgot to leave a review. This podcast is captivating and so well done that I feel like I know the twins and their families.
  • Kellykay8387
    Riveting from start to finish
    It’s riveting and is so much more than just true crime, and it’s certainly not glorifying drug trafficking. It’s honest, heartbreaking, shockingly brave, nuanced, human, emotional, WILD, and surprisingly warm at times. The pacing of the episodes and the way Peter & Jay & Val & Viv tell stories is masterful. 10/10
  • Nicey187
    Well done
    I enjoyed listening to this story every night walking my dog, crazy life to live
  • 528Dee
    Great Podcast
    Enjoyed listening to both seasons. Thank you for speaking to the brothers and sharing their story. Wish them best of luck in life.
  • Patty2347
    Great production
    Great production but the twins and their wives really don’t seem that remorseful for the life they led at all. Still excellent podcast.
  • Don Amici21
    My ears and brain is stuck
    This is by far one of the best stories I’ve heard. Can’t stop listening and S2E2. It’s so well done and I’m hooked. What a crazy life man.
  • Ms. Reviewsss
    Enjoyed listening
    I think it was a good podcast. Enough details so that we can understand what was going on . The Flores brothers did what was best for their family & themselves. Best of luck to both families!
  • country_boy201487
    Snitches
    These guys are straight up snitches
  • mwoodyp
    Transcript Please!!!
    Love the show but I've found I'm missing 15-20% of the dialogue, and that's listening closely. Every transcript I've found is missing at least 25-30%. I'd really like to be able to better understand what's going on!
  • Winebudd
    Great Podcast
    Interesting, nail biting and informative on what really goes on the underground drug industry. Life , love and fast cruel money a must listen, I ordered the book . Good luck to everyone involved
  • SadiePickles
    A+
    This podcast is AMAZING! Every episode is so well done, so well laid out and so very good. I am almost through Season 2 and I’m hoping there might be a S3! I would love to produce this as a feature film, but I’m sure someone else has already purchased the rights and is currently developing it. Thank you, 50 Cent + Charlie! You two are excellent. And thank you, Jay + Pete, for opening up your life story for the world to hear. Much love + respect to you and your families!
  • Kupieoner
    BEST PODCAST
    The detail, narrated by the Flores Twins! I have heard both seasons several times ! I recommend you hear it!
  • BobbyJams
    Good but REALLY REPETITIVE
    Way too much filler about how the twins missed their family. Of course that is super important and totally understand but this is a podcast, we are listening to a story, we get it and dont need to hear how much they missed their family on repeat over and over and over and over. And its of course very obvious they miss their family cuz they are stuck in prison. And i think they way minimized how much they loved their lifestyle when they were livin large. I dont think they should have snitched.
  • Ekyby314
    Glorifying
    I’m drawn to the narco genre but this pod infantilizes the twins & thus minimizes their actions. Imagine how many lives & families destroyed? …Generational trauma & destruction b/c of the actions of these two? This pod is way too sympathetic on dealers of societal death and destruction. 14yr wasn’t enough, at least 20yr. How many ppl od’d on their heroin? Lost decades of their lives to addiction? The hidden cost to families and the future cost to society b/c children suffering 2nd hand consequences? This pod is produced in a way in which it narrates an excuse story for two really bad dudes who did big time damage to the world.
  • Steph Trevino
    Must listen!!
    Best podcast!!
  • BrandyAndCo
    Excellent
    Best podcast of the year. Excellent narrative that kept me listening for hours. Started to root for these twins and had to keep reminding myself what they choose to do for a career.
  • VanellopeVS68
    Wow
    Very interesting story. I certainly hope for the best for this family. Especially their children.
  • BBYHeart24
    This was FIRE!
    What an amazing job you guys did with this podcast! It’s one of the best I have ever listened to! Thank you for sharing your story in such a powerful way! The twins have a way to story tell in such a detail way that I was able to literally envision everything! The details they would include along with the sound effects were so important to try and be there and try to feel what they were going through! I can’t wait for the Documentary on this! This should def win an award!!!!! Sending a huge Shout out from chi-town💨stay blessed. 🙏👏👏👏
  • ariascristal
    Lord bring these families back together!
    The twins and wife’s are braver than I could ever be! I know they made horrible choices in the beginning of their life but making right choices now is what is important! I pray that your families can heal and be together! To the wife’s … man I am praying for you both 🩷 Stay strong ladies! You are loved and needed!!
  • TB12 2 AH81=7
    Good BUT!
    Who sound edited this? They sound like the mumble brothers plus they are way to long winded. Good story though
  • Rebs Meehan
    What a story!!
    This is an amazing story from all sides. I do observe that US Government was clear as mud in what was offed to PnJ and family. Honestly these prosecutors appear to be shooting fish in a barrel by going after your wives as y’all get out. I truly believe there are others out there they could spend their time going after, such easy game getting your wives. Please don’t get me wrong, wrong is wrong. I’m sure a conversation could have happened regarding charges to your wives. To come at your house so aggressive when non of that has been reciprocated on your side, I mean really, our tax dollars at work, yes I’m annoyed. I wish you all well, life will bless you in the changes you have made. Be well all
  • Mizzzzzbossi
    Yes
    So glad yall back. It’s crazy hearing other stories and they are still in the fold. I hope to get a Season 3!!! Also where can I write to their wives and hold them DOWN over these next 3 years?
  • Shopzilla4clothes
    Season 3!?!?!
    This was sooo good! Can we get a season three??
  • daniela409
    Wow
    I want these families to be together. This is a heartbreaking situation.
  • Was a listener
    Stories are different 🙄
    In the wives book it say he died at a car wash so why here is it at a hair salon, can’t believe what they say 🤬🙄
  • Amy S in LA
    An absolutely riveting rollercoaster!
    I’d heard of El Chapo of course, but I’d never heard of the twins. Listening to their story in their own words, in their own voices, is riveting. The twins are charismatic, honest, and a bit cocky, and they are also loving dads, brothers and husbands who do whatever they can to make it back home to their families. Their rollercoaster lives had me on the edge of my seat! Hearing the anguish in their voices and the voices of their wives and children’s of not just their their work and incarceration, but also their decision to turn on the most notorious drug lord in history is absolutely fascinating!
  • JuJuBooHoo
    What’s the lesson here
    Growing up in the inner city I’ve seen first hand how someone can get caught up in the drug trade or organized crime in general. I applaud them for wanting a better life for their kids. After listening to the price they had to pay to become a voluntary US informant I would imagine they regret their decision and anyone who contemplates making that choice, upon hearing this podcast, wouldn’t chose it either.
  • kinggriffey24
    We’re supposed to feel bad for drug dealers?
    I’ve listened to all of the episodes and just can’t anymore. They make these guys out to be some type of heroes, they are criminals and snitches. They are not good role models, not good parents, not good people. Man it is exhausting listening to them play victim over and over sort of ruins the story.
  • Kristeferr
    No trust
    I think the government did them so wrong after what they did to bring down El Chapo die just goes to show you you can not trust our government
  • chantiilove
    10/10
    love this gives a different perspective I also love hearing from the twins wife, how they also basically were doing time with the kids visiting I know the struggle.!
  • Love amour
    Like a movie
    Is like hearing a novela but is real life. Loveee
  • Telacomeswey
    Charli was not it for this project
    Over all it’s a interesting story to hear so people will listen. But this could have been way better if Charli would of asked something else besides “how did that make you feel” second season was not it we know jail is not a nice place and that it’s hard thanks for reminding us of that. Adding the kiddos was not it either.
  • Terrell05
    Amazing
    AMAZING podcast! Great listen had my on my seat the entire show
  • Mick777767
    I am done
    Wish they wouldn’t play the victim in this story. They were cartel traffickers who screwed up probably thousands of lives. The woe is me act from them and their wives is too much. I can’t listen anymore
  • Instagrama0208
    Best podcast of the year!
    Real, raw, honest!
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